svartsaft (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

fantasy is fiction. and everyone can go wrong.

Mr48GOAT (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Nobody is calling it rubbish; we're discussing which is 'scientific' sci-fi vs fantasy. The Force powers are part of the core story of Star Wars. But for Star Trek - powers come with small plot or an episode but ST writers generally won't use such powers as the basis for much. Trek is based more on science/technological advancement than it is Vulcan nerve pinch or Betazoid telepathy.SW based on magical powers = fantasy. ST having a random episode but rooted in science/tech = NOT fantasy.

Joseph Parker (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Your not being reasonable here,its okay to agree on Q powers and abilities but Jedi and Sith powers are rubbish,doesn't make sense to me.so to you if the Q had Jedi powers then its okay?..Let make compare the X-MEN for example:Storm can control lighting,wind and can shoot it from her hands similar to a sith but without wind manipulation,Jean Grey can move things with her mind and also has Telekinesis,Similar too a Jedi.So i guess the X-MEN is a bunch of rubbish as well?

Joseph Parker (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

" the Q represent the potential of evolution on a scale we can't even comprehend. The Traveler hinted at the idea that space, time, and thought are not the separate things we think they are. The idea in ST is that in an unforeseeable future we may develop abilities we don't yet have" you said we may develop abilities we don't yet have,okay so what makes you think we won't have jedi powers such as seeing the future, telekinesis,being able shoot electricity from our hands etc?...

MoonarEclipse (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

THANK you

MsBezelbub (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The U.S.S. Make Sh*t Up by Aurelio Voltaire (BiTrektual Version) OFFICIAL is all I have to say about ST.

Luna Soledad (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

both are fantasy lol

Baseshocks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The universe is one large complex math equation, we don't even understand 1% of it if even near that. In a 100,000 years how would humans look, what would we evolve into, will our minds evolve to the point where we can feel the dark matter around us? will it be a sense developed and as simple as seeing or hearing? could we tap into and manipulate that energy for personal use? Its all probable, we are infants compared to even our own galaxy.

Mr48GOAT (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

As usual, your logic fails. There IS scientific reasoning. It happens to be the same scientific reasoning behind the real life probability of life on other planets. Probability dictates that beings that have existed & evolved for as long as the Q have nearly anything is possible. Don't try to comprehend it ; As of yet, earth beings can't wrap their heads around concepts like how many stars are in the universe or the chronological development of it.